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  • fblack
    Sep 10, 12:25 PM
    I agree that the expandability of the 24inch imac is impressive, but until I see ease of upgradability as well Im all for a mid range. Its also about the CPU, the C2D's are nice, but their not really a match for their desktop counterparts, there are some of us that want the power of a desktop but dont have the budget for the xeon range...

    I'm right with you when you say "that some of us want the power of a desktop but dont have the budget for the xeon range." Also I dont like all in one solutions. However, the 24" might be apple's way of saying that's close enough. Plus looking at what Macworld had to say about the 2.16 C2D and the potential for the 24" 2.33 it sure does narrow the performance some what and this might be what apple is thinking.

    More significant, the 2.16GHz system narrowed the performance gap between iMac and Mac Pro product lines. With twice the number of processor cores, all running faster than the iMac, the Mac Pro had a definite advantage in this match up. But because not all applications and tasks take full advantage of the Mac multiprocessing capabilities, most results showed the Mac Pro between 20 and 30 percent faster than the 2.16GHz iMac. I expect that test results of the new 24-inch model�with its faster graphics and the optional 2.33GHz processor upgrade�could close this performance gap even further.

    I cant wait to see the benchmarks on the 24". :)

    But dont get me wrong I would still prefer a headless tower. :cool:

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  • NebulaClash
    Mar 29, 11:30 AM
    IDC, in their typically throw-a-dart clueless approach, seems to be shifting all the Symbian market share over to Microsoft. Yeah, right, like that'll happen!

    And remember that in the Android bucket are all the Chinese knockoffs that don't run the Android store and are Android in name only, but hey, IDC will throw them into the bucket. As for iOS, well, if you are an iPod touch you don't count, and neither do the iPads. Phones only, please, even if you are just an Asian knockoff. So remember that the iOS market share is quite a bit larger than shown here.

    Finally, I see market share, but where is the chart of revenue share? Oh right, that wouldn't please their corporate sponsors, so IDC focuses on market share only.

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  • MacRumors
    Apr 4, 11:39 AM (
    Apple's Otay Ranch retail store

    San Diego 6 reports ( that an attempted holdup at Apple's Otay Ranch retail store ( in Chula Vista, California went sour this morning, with one of the robbers reportedly having been shot and killed by a mall security guard.A security guard caught the suspects smashing the glass front doors of the Apple Store at the mall before the mall opened for the day.

    The guard reportedly shot a male suspect in the head. NBC San Diego reports ( that two other suspects, one of whom had also been shot, have been arrested. The incident happened shortly before 7:00 AM this morning, before the store had opened for business.

    Article Link: Attempted Apple Store Holdup Goes Bad: Suspect Killed (

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  • bommai
    Sep 19, 05:52 PM
    1) Thanks for reminding me, i forgot that fact.
    2) But you'll happily have a RAID array and plug THAT into your iBook?
    3) Yeah you said, a RAID array... a sort of external HD, but in an array.
    4) If you take your iBook on the road with you, then how are the other people in your house going to access the movies and other media via iTV if its stored on your "RAID array" which requires a host computer to be of any use?

    You have high expectations for Apple then? Its going to be some RAID array!

    Rather than a RAID, what they need is a foolproof NAS (Network-attached storage). A NAS is basically a special purpose computer that has a network port (wired/wireless) as well as internal/external storage through USB/SATA/eSATA. For example D-Link makes a NAS that is compatible with uPnP as well as Bonjour. This box has space for an internal hard drive (ATA) as well as USB2 for external HDs. It has 802.11g wireless as well as ethernet port. You just connect is as another network device in your home and then you can dump your media into it from your PC/Mac. So, for people with laptops, you can buy your media or RIP them into the NAS and then iTV can use it. This can work well for people with laptops. iTV should be able to work off of a NAS rather than a PC/Mac.

    The current versions of NAS may not be foolproof (Apple quality standards) and therefore this is a companion product that Apple could produce for home media storage. Another advantage of the NAS is that it can be near where iTV is rather than the computer since the bandwidth requirements for iTV are more important than for the computer. You don't want glitches while playing back media. So, you could live with downloading the media from online into NAS directly (through a slower wireless connection). Then have the NAS connected through wired ethernet to iTV.

    Hope this makes sense!!

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  • shanmugam
    Apr 30, 01:58 PM
    I've been waiting to buy my first Mac desktop for some time now... and an i7 SB iMac should last me through college :D

    desktop is good for power, it will lose its resale value. if you are not moving around much or no plan upgrading for 3 years then it is good

    otherwise MacBook/Pro + Monitor is win!

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  • w00master
    Nov 13, 01:56 PM
    99% of these are in a huff self important 'tempest in a teapot' stories;
    its not required-nay not even helpful to be a fanboy to point this out-just 2 good eyes and a brain;
    Alway been complainers, always will be;
    If the rules are clearly spelled out and they dont follow them-then they shouldnt be crybabies in public
    CAREFULLY read APPLEs developers rules
    follow them
    dont try to breach them

    you dont need a PhD to understand this

    So, did you even READ what Rogue Amoeba had to say?

    I'm seriously amazed with you apologists. You guys are defending Apple in an instance where they are CLEARLY in the wrong.


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  • Multimedia
    Sep 12, 05:32 AM
    I, for one, would be happy to spread the Word to the ignorant masses if Apple came out with a cute little white tower to match everyone's cute little white iPod. :P The Mini's nice, and the new iMac is nice too, but I think this thing could help Apple a lot in the desktop segment. I'd say something like that's bound to come out at some point, but when is the big question.

    Also, it's probably been mentioned earlier in the thread, but does anyone know how long after Kentsfield Clovertown is supposed to come out? I heard "early 2007" a while ago, but with Kentsfield coming out so early, I would think Clovertown won't take that long.In two weeks at the Intel Developer's Conference in San Francisco, I think Intel will tell us exactly. But from what I've read recently, looks like Clovertown will be shipping no later than November. So looks like worst case scenario will force Steve to have to introduce 8 core Mac Pros in four months at the MacWorld Expo San Francisco SteveNote January 9, 2007. I don't see how he could wait any longer than that.

    Sure they will cost more than any previous Mac ever has, $4k is my guess, but to imagine there isn't a market for such a goliath is myopic in the extreme.

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  • whyrichard
    Aug 28, 12:49 PM

    I was thinking of buying an intel core solo and dropping in a processor that is the best i can get for it to use it as a rendering machine.....

    .... should i bother waiting for the new mac mini's or should i go ahead and buy a cheapo core solo? especially since they would be sold for much less.....


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  • sisyphus
    Sep 10, 10:05 PM
    Sorry to burst your bubble, but it appears that the improvement was significantly overstated. Macrumors has now updated that thread (

    Doh! Oh well I still think there are many present and future uses for more cores. Especially if Apple releases a video airport express sorta thingy on Tuesday. If you could use your Mac as a video server that will do all the leg work then send it over the air to the "express" or multiple "expresses" in the house while still working on it, you've just developed yet another way to use up processor cycles on the machine. If SJ wants the Mac to be the hub of your digital lifestyle it is going to be asked to do more at once. Which is of course good!

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  • jofarmer
    Sep 12, 06:18 PM
    picture attached

    Edit: Tested on Three iPods now. One bought days after the first 5G was realsed right up to one bought in july... all work with itunes purchase and home encoded content.

    I have never been more happy to be proven wrong. But now: Steve has been lying to us about the capabilities of this great iPod 5G for nearly a year now, just so we wouldn't anticipate the iTunes Movie Store.

    What a dear.

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  • G5power
    Jul 14, 09:18 AM
    This is good to see. High performance chips from Intel and a great design from Apple, this will be fun to see what is announced at WWDC.

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  • shartypants
    Apr 28, 04:16 PM
    he he, time Microsoft took some Viagra in its old age ;)

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  • needo
    May 1, 03:11 AM
    Crap... I just ordered a 27" iMac from Friday morning. It hasn't shipped yet as i did some custom changes. I am going to call in the morning to see if I can hopefully cancel the order. I also purchased a 27" Cinema Display but that has already shipped. And doesn't look like it is in this upgrade round.

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  • toddybody
    Apr 4, 12:46 PM
    Coming from a "Gun Person" (Own a HK .45 USP Tactical w/ GEMTECH Suppressor)

    ...All this "well they had it coming" BS is totally misplaced, the man who died was a human being. I only hope that the guard did not instigate the shooting.

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  • varera
    Apr 20, 10:56 AM
    Wonder how long this item will remain here...the one on Engadget managed about 7 minutes. ;)

    nope, it is still there, just updated

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  • aeaglex07
    Apr 20, 10:40 AM
    Don't rely on encryption to protect you in any way. The police can crack it, as can hackers, and they can simply demand with a court order that you give them the password. Then you're forced to essentially testify against yourself. No, pleading the 5th won't help.

    *We Luvz Big Bruther* :(

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  • dongmin
    Sep 5, 03:40 PM
    Quoted from an older thread that has been left behind:

    Somebody cast doubt on the HDMI thing, I don't know - just seemed like the easiest option to get video into an iMac. You don't have to worry about all the different methods of getting TV (free to air, digital, cable) because if you have a HDMI-enabled receiver it would just plug into the back of the iMac. You'd need to use the receiver's remote to do all the channel changing but Apple could offer some sort of recording program. EyeHome could do something with it too? I'm no expert, just trying to look at a simple solution for a complicated, fragmented problem.I'm also not sure about the bittorrent thing. It's nice in theory, but even with bittorrent, movies will take a while to download. The problem with that is that you can't watch a bittorrent movie until the whole thing has downloaded, whereas with traditional quicktime downloads, you can start watching as soon as you have a decent enough buffer. And iTMS is all about instant gratification.

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  • Stridder44
    Aug 28, 02:50 PM
    Well I think most people are like me, they want their money to go as far as it can go. Right now $2000 will get you a decent 20" 32bit processor iMac. A few weeks from now (or hours! who knows! excitement!) it will get you a decent 20" 64bit processor iMac. I got my iBook about a week before they announced a speed bump (did not know enough about Mac culture to know to wait) and it pissed me off. Not gonna happen to me again!

    I understand exactly what you're saying, and agree 100%. I don't understand how people can't understand this theory. "Waiting for Rev. B" is one this, but "waiting for that minor update that's only a week away at the most" makes sense, and it's stupid not to wait. Don't listen to them, they're just jealous because you have patience and they don't. :D

    Also Im not sure if this has been mentioned, but the "free iPod with a Mac" offer ends sept. 16 according to the Apple Store....not sure if there's any correlation going here...

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  • AppleScruff1
    Apr 28, 05:47 PM
    Well thank you Steve Balmer. Why in the hell did Gates left him in charge I never will understand.

    While Steve Jobs is great.

    See you have two kinds of Steves, one is an idiot and other one is highly intelligent. :D

    And from this post one can venture a guess as to which kind you are.

    Apr 23, 09:15 AM
    Why? The Intel Integrated 3000 graphics outperform the current Nividia GeForce 320M's found in the current MacBook Airs and outgoing pre-gen MacBook Pro's. So why is an improvement sad?

    God why don't people research, unless apple decides to not skip directly to ivy bridge, you will NOT get the same intel sb igp as the mbp 13, instead you will get one that's at least 20-30% slower. Something's had to give to get the 35w tdp on the sb mbp cpus down to the 25w/17w level.

    Sep 14, 06:54 AM
    I think its very telling that Jobs closed the Showtime event by saying:

    "Apple is in your den, living room, car, pocket. I think you see where we are going with this."

    Is he saying that Apple's plan is to be everywhere?
    Probably, and a cell phone certainly completes that plan.

    Sep 9, 02:08 AM
    I am moving up from an eMac 1 gigahertz G4. So I'm sure it will seem very fast to me. Probably more than I need.

    You're in for a treat. I went from a 1.2GHz G4 to MacBook (2HGz Yonah) and it's streets ahead in terms of performance. 4 times faster encoding a DVD with Handbrake is a godsend.

    The Merom iMac's are a great spec for the price.

    Apr 25, 02:49 AM
    Doesn't sound like Dmac would really care. After all, the other guy is at fault because they didn't have the common courtesy to move the car.

    Exactly. Some states have prominent signs that vehicles can only be in the left lane only for passing.

    Oct 12, 01:07 PM
    I'll probably come of sounding like a jerk and opening a HUGE can of worms with this, BUT...

    I'm glad somebody else was thinking what I was thinking! Why do we constantly have to place a line between men and women, black and white, American and everyone else. If we actually want equality and unity and all those wonderful things, I think it's about time we stop dilineating between groups of people.

    It can't be both ways... if women/minorities want equality in the work place, or government, or in society as a whole, there can't also be inequality in the world when it comes to things like this... men and women, black and white, straight and gay - they have to be equal across the board, or not at all. We can't have it both ways.

    That said, bravo to Apple, U2, and anyone else involved here. Anytime you can use your power and influence to raise funds and awareness - no matter the alterior motives - it's a good thing.
    Exactly, why just limit this to people with AIDS. That discriminates against people who are healthy.

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