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  • DJMastaWes
    Jul 24, 12:00 AM
    I agree with you about November. But not for MBP - for Merom in MacBooks. I think since Merom is already shipping early it's a safe bet we'll see Merom MacBook Pros running @ 2.33GHz in September. November would have to be the drop dead date for Merom MacBooks still running @ 2GHz since above that speed they are way too expensive to go into MacBooks.Exactly. The Tuesday September 12 Paris Apple Expo Keynote is the latest MBP will be announced as "shipping today".
    I guess I can wait till then. But do you think they will annouce at WWDC, and then say Shipping soon or something, like they did in january?

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  • adbe
    Mar 29, 02:46 PM
    the touch is the best selling would be the last to disappear

    It also extends the iOS install base by a significant amount.

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  • xfiftyfour
    Sep 11, 10:40 AM
    i'm trying to not get my hopes up on this one.. mostly because I expect that it'll just be the movie store, and that really doesn't excite me very much. I'm not the type to buy DVDs, or watch a movie more than once unless I have to.. so paying $15 for a DVD to watch on a small screen isn't as appealing as heading to my blockbuster and paying $4 to watch it once on my TV and then move on.

    But boy.. if a new iPod comes out.. I'm gunna have to go work the streets tomorrow night so I can afford one.. er. ;)

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  • SandynJosh
    Nov 23, 12:57 PM
    In looking over all the ideas generated in this thread and all the trends going on in the world, I'm lead to wonder if a consumer iPhone makes as much sense as it would seem to at first blush. Sure, the numbers can be great, but the profit potential is nearly nil.

    Hasn't the consumer iPhone by now become a commodity product? More features are being tucked in rather then reducing the cost further and the base cost of contracts are at an all time low. I don't think it would be wise for Apple or anyone else to enter a relatively mature commodity market.

    RIM has mapped out a good chunk of the business market, but it still is vulnerable. But is the business market alone worth the risk at this point?

    I suspect that Apple's stragegy is to leverage off the iPod market base in such a way that it becomes an easy choice to buy the new iPhone. For example, many of the newest cars will have a place to integrate the iPod into the sound system. Aircraft companies are making a similar provision for the audio AND the video. Tons of other manufacturers have made in-home equipment to hold and access the information stored in the iPod.

    Imagine, if you will, the new iPhone nesting in all them iPod-friendly ports. In the car, it becomes a hands free cell phone with voice recognition dialing and a high-quality speakerphone (aka, the car's sound system). Now imagine either a business person using the system as he cruises between appointments, or a group of teens using it as they cruise the streets on a Friday night. Both productive for one and way cool for the other group.

    All of the above done without adding much at all to a basic phone/iPod, just the pure iPod base being leveraged. Now add a few user interface features and a couple of bells and whistles to appeal to a broad range of users and you hit the ground running.

    It's the more specific user related want list that next needs to be addressed and that's where it gets dicey. That might be best marketed as additional features that could be added as needed.

    For example, not everyone needs GPS. However, let's go back to the automobile with the iPod port in the dash. Now using the new iPhone with the GPS option, a person can travel to an unfamiliar place with ease. They may not have bought the GPS option in the beginning, but they bought the ability to add the option when they made their decision. It's similar to computers in this regard. Oftem a computer isn't purchased with the full load of RAM but a computer that can't be expanded has a harder go of it even if it is superior... i.e. the history of the early Mac.

    A good camera phone with some image stabilization would serve a lot of people. Would it be better as an option that might bulk up the phone a little but could be slipped on and off as needed?

    However apple does the iPhone it will need to integrate it into the existing iPod port structure for maximum penetration right out of the gate. And then, let's not forget the soon-to-be-released iTV. How might that integrate a phone's utility?

    I hinestly can't imagine a good answer to that last question, but my mind is still reeling with the unanswered question of why Steve would pre-announce a product after not doing so since 1983.

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  • kavika411
    Apr 19, 01:11 PM
    Everyone does pay taxes. The statement that 40+% of the population paid no taxes is a lie. They may have paid no Federal Income Taxes, but that does NOT mean they paid no taxes.

    That is a fair point.

    Perhaps the question is this. For those people who pay no federal income taxes, what other federal taxes do they pay? Since you are a tax attorney, I'm guessing you may have a good link.

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  • Multimedia
    Aug 2, 11:40 PM
    you act like the Core Duo (Yonah) is terribly slower than Core 2 Duo (Merom), but benchmarks have showed that they are very similar in performance. i don't see the big deal about upgrading all of them now, when the current chip has plenty of powerSorry. That was not the intent of my meaning. I agree with you. But now that Core 2 are shipping, the 64-bit character of this new generation of processors will in the long term make a difference in the OS as well as in the Pro apps. There are also large energy management differences between Yonah and Merom giving the portables noticably longer battery life immediately.

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  • toddybody
    Apr 7, 11:57 AM
    The last part was about the next revolutionary product.

    Don't think they will be complacent, but most likely without Steve Jobs they'll have a harder time.

    As far as complaining about C2D, MBP res, etc. , add Blue Ray that's never an issue for me.
    I don't buy any Apple product until I check out it's what I want or it's close enough to jump.

    I was on the sidelines until 3rd gen ipod, on the sidelines until MBP's fell into my price range ( I like to buy one generation back), and currently on the sidelines until ipad 3 or 4 as well as iphone 5 or 6.

    Good things come to those who wait. (I am from a generation that can wait without withdrawal symptoms)

    I never would suggest that Apple is going to tank/go back to HP manufactured iPod

    I just want other companies to succeed, if only to make my Apple products that much better. For instance, Id love to see the iP5 have a 4inch screen (im sure many disagree)...that could be a possibility because of some HTC success (Evo, Inspire...etc). BTW: Glad to hear youre a very contemplative buyer, it always pays off. Stay well friend, have a wonderful day.

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  • tipdrill407
    Aug 7, 10:03 PM
    Uh, that's the point: you shouldn't have to 'pay more' - it should be standard, and shouldn't raise the price-point, if other manufacturers can do it.

    I don't get the apologists who defend every questionable component from Apple by saying 'well, I don't want to pay extra in the base price' (for a reasonable amount of RAM or for a decent videocard) - demand more from Apple.

    Ask why you can't have a $2500 flagship desktop with a graphics card that didn't cost Apple $40, why Apple can't eat the extra $45 to offer their consumer items with a usable amount of RAM standard.

    The base model offers more than enough features for a pro to work blazingly fast. The graphics card is adequate for A LOT of things, except maybe hardcore gaming. But again Apple never intended the Mac Pro to be used for shooting ppl.

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  • jjvdhoef
    May 9, 05:00 AM
    While I agree, MobileMe is still in my eyes the best of the bunch. That's how they get away with charging $99/year. However, if it became free, they could really talk up how great owning a Mac is because of MobileMe.

    I don't know what the service was like this past year, but while I subscribed to the service it was very very very unreliable. I now use google services to replicate most of the functionality for free.

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  • dwd3885
    Apr 18, 02:49 PM
    couldn't Samsung simply get back at Apple by NOT making Apple's stuff? I mean, come on.

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    Nov 27, 12:50 PM
    Fantastic - Apple has to make a rugged version with handles! Or even design a few different cases to put the Mac Tablet in!

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  • ugahairydawgs
    Apr 25, 09:42 AM
    "We don't track anyone."

    Sent from your backyard.

    Well done

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  • ahuman7341
    Jul 29, 09:52 PM
    Oh I hope for these to be false, I hate cell phones and I don't want to hate an apple product. But if they did make a phone it would require the following features.

    -At least 5 megapixel camera, I'd love to minimize the amount of things in my pocket by combing my camera and my cell phone ( i hate the beast but my mother makes me carry it) but there isint a camera phone good enough to actually use to take a picture other than an imac G5 in an elevator.

    - The inablilty to do "texting :) :) :) :) :) :) " although there would be an option for "texting" but if someone were to select it a dialogue would come up , "YOU ARE RETARDED, just call them." the only option would be, "get hit by a bus"

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  • Benjy91
    Apr 25, 10:01 AM
    It's funny how people are panicking about this, but not the Geo-Map feature on any photo taken with an iPhone. Which can be pinpointed to 50m of where you took the photo.

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  • techpr
    May 4, 05:36 PM
    I'm guessing greedy Apple will probably keep 30% of the sales too! :rolleyes:

    or the 100%

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  • obeygiant
    Jul 30, 09:36 PM
    this is the rumor that comes out when there are no rumors.

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  • rockosmodurnlif
    Apr 25, 08:58 AM
    A: Oh yes they do. We don't track anyone. The info circulating around is false.

    He has come down from the mountain, he has spoken. Please return to your huts.

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  • Silentwave
    Jul 22, 03:36 AM
    I'm with you -X-

    Doesn't the iMac use the same intel chip as the MBP? Why all the hoohah about an impending MBP release, when it might also mean an upgrade for the iMac - which hasn't been bumped since it's announcement in Jan?

    Now before I'm lambarsted because the iMac is not a 'pro' machine, I am a professional graphic designer and I am in the market for one.

    Bring on the merom iMac! :cool:


    There's actually been a bit of discussion about this for some time. The debate is whether or not Conroe will be in the iMac upgrade instead of Merom- the computer could probably handle it heatwise, and it would offer a better performance level: 2.4-2.67GHz with a faster FSB than merom.

    My thinking is that if they don't go Conroe now, it'll happen when the 800MT/S FSB Meroms require the socket change next year, forcing a new logic board for the imac anyways.
    I hope it comes sooner though, and with 4GB RAM capacity.

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  • KnightWRX
    Apr 23, 06:39 PM
    I don't know where you get your statement than the "iPhone had a higher resolution than macs"

    Resolution is a function of both pixel count and screen size. While there were less pixels on the iPhone screen, it had "higher resolution" in the form of higher DPI ;)

    However, the person you are replying to is still wrong. The math behind the "retina" display (as explained here ( is that indeed, 300 PPI is the magic number at the viewing distance you usually hold a phone away from your eye in order for pixels to not be distinguishable.

    As such, the older 320x480 iPhones did indeed have quite visible pixels (and yes, I can see the pixels on my 3GS just fine).

    Aug 4, 04:39 AM
    WWDC is a developer confernce, so Leopard and the Mac Pro. I'd be surprised if he even mentions Merom.Tons of Mac developers use PowerBooks (*cough* I mean MacBook Pros). so I wouldn't be at all surprised to see it mentioned. In fact I'd venture to say PB/MBP are becoming the machine of choice for coders. In fact I'm planning on completely replacing both my dual G5 and my G4 PowerBook with a new MacBook Pro as soon as they revise them with Meron chips. Also, "developers" means hardware developers as well as software, and software developers have to know about the chips they're coding for too, so talking details about a processor is not at all unusual for WWDC (The G5 was discussed in great detail there, for example). But if I had to guess, I'll say they will not revise the MB Pros at WWDC, it will be all about the new Mac Pros, Merom chips, and Leopard. Possibly Xserve will be announced as well but it might be too early for that.

    Apr 19, 12:05 PM
    I went and found sources on my own.

    Okay. But this is a forum ... an online discussion (or an online cocktail party as I like to think about it). So hear we are at the party and you've just told me that our discussion is over until I've read a 1,000 page book.



    Uhhh ... did I see sushi at the buffet table?

    Nice chatting with you.

    Apr 5, 01:17 PM
    Honestly, I hope Toyota tells Apple to stuff it.

    Lame. You can be sure Toyota will capitulate to the Apple strong arm.

    Not surprised! Toyota should not take it!


    I love Apple for many reasons, but I also have a hard time with some of their ideology.

    Don't give in Toyota!

    Its our devices, and if we want to modify them for our own use, so be it.

    Does anyone read the stories before commenting on them anymore? :rolleyes:

    You didn't even need to click to read the full story.

    Toyota had agreed to do so to "maintain their good relationship with Apple," our Velti contact told me on the phone.

    Mar 28, 11:16 AM
    Capacity bump now, full update September(ish)?

    Now in what way would that possibly make sense? Are you being serious or just plucking out of thin air?

    Aug 11, 10:51 AM
    You can drop in Merom into the current socketed Yonah lines. That is what I was getting at. I know that the link ( that was posted was to a Conroe chip though.

    I was responding to a link to a Conroe chip. Hence why I said that there is no Mac that the *linked Conroe* chip can be put into *apart from maybe the Mac Pro* which has the right socket.

    Again, you're just reading my post incorrectly.

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